Season 5 Episode 4: Nevin & Fred – Live from Las Vegas

Season 5 Episode 4

Nevin (Adams) & Fred (Reish) brought their prolific, pugnacious, and provocative perspectives in a live podcast format to the record-breaking NAPA 401(k) Summit.

That’s right, at the mid-point of the 2025 NAPA 401(k) Summit, the precocious podcasting pair talked about a number of lessons to be learned from recent litigation, including:

  • Who bears the burden of proof in ERISA litigation—according to the United States Supreme Court (bad policy, but “good” law)?
  • A rare jury trial—and a BIG settlement.  Why they’re rare (but may become more common).  Oh, and it involved a multiple employer plan (MEP).
  • Fred clarifies his prediction on PEPs (but he’s still a fan).

And that’s just Part 1! 

Episode Resources

Burden of Proof Ruling

Supremes Back Cornell Plaintiffs in ERISA Burden of Proof Standard

Oral arguments in the case:  Supremes Hear ERISA Burden of Proof Case

The Cornell University Litigation “Saga”  https://www.napa-net.org/header/search/?q=cornell

ERISA Jury Trials

Jury Slaps Pentegra with $39 Million in Damages in MEP Excessive Fee Suit

Fidelity Wins Motion on Jury Demand

PEP Perspectives

Nevin & Fred: Could a Predominant PEPs Prediction Prove Positive?

PEPs Will Match Single Employer Plan Adoption in 5 to 10 Years: Fred Reish

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